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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.26 20:08:03 -
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Madlightning wrote:THANK YOU CCP OMG I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON LOL i been like od i need to drop plexs on like 100 fighters befor the patch or do i rage quit but now i know thank you lol 
You realize, your still going to need to drop a lot of isk on fighters right?
Current fighters will become T1 "whatever" light fighters - Which will only be useful to turn into T2's as T1's aren't worth spit to actually use.
This change has been nicely configured to get carrier and super pilots to open their wallets (isk or plex depending on your play style and in game wealth) and spend, spend, spend.
Rough estimate - 6 T1 light fighters are being exchanged at +-20 mil. 6 T2 light fighters will run you close to 40 mil; or 60 mil for a squad of 9.
Q; What happens to excess fighters if the carrier has more than 14 current fighters (they won't fit in anything other than a max skilled Thanatos) , will they get moved to other hangars (if they aren't also full)? Or will the new fighter management bays just be overloaded, so you can't move or use the ship until excess fighters are removed?
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.27 00:11:14 -
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Martin Gregor wrote:As you did not mention this:
- What happens to fighters in sellorders and what happens to buyorders ? Are they going to be multiplied as well?
They should all be cancelled and fees refunded as the item your currently selling will no longer exist. It will have been transformed into a cheaper replica of itself.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.27 00:47:26 -
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Alleron Shazih wrote:EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:Silk75 wrote:EnShagKushAna Lugalbanda wrote:"We were planning to refund all isk spent and sp trained in the now defunct Force Auxiliary skills"
so ive been training the FAX skills since they were released (as in, before they announced they were gonna use existing carrier skill) to get a head start, remapped and implanted for max SP/hr and cheekily decided to keep training until the skills were revoked and the SP reimbursed, thinking i could then distribute the copious amounts of SP back into new skills like light fighters and etc...
**** me i guess, right?
sigh Because you can't read I've made things bolder Quote:This will still happen in the coming weeks (Or at the latest by the next release). well, i planned on putting that SP directly into the new fighter skills and buffing the hangar size one which are not trained at all, so this makes me completly useless post patch...but thanks for trying to be edgy i guess So you intentionally gamed the system and tried to exploit a loophole to earn more free skillpoints and you want CCP to address your needs when it turns out that won't work exactly as planned? Wow.
How is it "free" skill points?
I know several people who have "racial fax" to level 4, trained before CCP changed their mind.
Right now, they are not only 500 mil out of pocket but also have useless SP. There was nothing "free" about training a skill CCP decided to remove.
Wow indeed.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.27 01:10:29 -
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DharkenGray wrote:Fighters still cannot engage an active POS with its shields up on the test server.
Will this be the case on TQ after the Citadel release as well?
The Ametat II has an optimal range of 40.80 km before skills - You should be able to hit a pos
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.27 01:27:18 -
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DharkenGray wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:DharkenGray wrote:Fighters still cannot engage an active POS with its shields up on the test server.
Will this be the case on TQ after the Citadel release as well? The Ametat II has an optimal range of 40.80 km before skills - You should be able to hit a pos I should have specified that Light Fighters still cannot engage an active POS on the test server. Carriers (as opposed to Super Carriers) will only be able to deploy Light Fighters and Support Fighters once Citadel is released. Today on TQ I can attack an active POS with a carrier by deploying sentries. My specific concern is that tomorrow on TQ I will not be able to attack an active POS with a carrier.
No you won't, by design carriers will be limited (very much so) to an anti subcap role.
Forget shooting POs's with a carrier and just buy a dread.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.27 12:17:59 -
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Alleron Shazih wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:
I know several people who have "racial fax" to level 4, trained before CCP changed their mind.
Right now, they are not only 500 mil out of pocket but also have useless SP. There was nothing "free" about training a skill CCP decided to remove.
Wow indeed.
Free as in unassigned. Being intentionally dense does not do you any favors. If you trained Racial Fleet Aux to 4 before the new plan was announced (not even sure that was possible, but whatever) then you apparently didn't have anything else you needed to train for and are out absolutely nothing because you'll get the isk and skill points back eventually. If you trained them and did have other skills you needed to boost or needed to remap for then you are either: A) An idiot because CCP is very upfront about how plans may change before implementation and you sacrificed your training time on the dim hope that nothing would change even that far in advance of the eventual patch. or B) Were playing the ultimate troll game for just this moment so that if CCP decided change the requirements, refund the points, and push back the skill refund you could crow about it on the forums. If that is case, for what it's worth, well played. Still an idiot, but well played. Hint, one half of that last line is sarcastic.
You specifically said "free" sp you said nothing about unassigned, I responded to what you typed, not to what you thought it meant and then you can only resort to call me names.
Alleron Shazih - Can't manage to write what he means - then insist I am an idiot, dense and a troll. Because I responded to what he wrote instead of what he meant (which only he could know as he didn't express it in words in his post). Which of course means, I am supposed to know he meant something entirely different to what he wrote because?
NB; It was possible to train the skills to 4, many players were aiming to have it to 5 at release time to be ahead of the curve. Of course they are all stupid and trying to game the system.
Interesting you removed what i replied to - Poor attempt to validate your bad, childish posting.
PS; I won't resort to name calling but will suggest next time you look in a mirror (if you own one) you reflect on what sort of person you are. Then think about how your poorly worded, insulting, troll posts may affect others. Because you can't relay a message without the need for insults and name calling, doesn't make it acceptable.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.27 12:29:51 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:Greetings Capital pilots! Drones in Carriers/SupercarriersAs drones can no longer be used by these ships, we need to move them to an appropriate location. - For character-owned ships, this will be the hangar bay of their home-station as listed on the character sheet.
- For corporation-owned ships, this will be the corporate HQ
- For ships owned by neither a character nor a corporation (such as ships in a contract) we'll put them in the ship's main cargo hold, and then let the new owner sort it out when he gets the ship.
Fly safe! This does not apply to supers. CCP Lebowski wrote: It definitely does, as they are losing their Drone bay and gaining a Fighter bay.
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Supers can't use drones and haven't been able to for quite a while now.
So there would be no drones to relocate.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.28 08:05:17 -
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Michael Bone wrote:PAPULA wrote:What about light fighters skill ? I have fighters to level 4, but after the patch i will not be able to use fighters ? if i understand that correctly ? Now i have to buy the skill first, earn 100 million isk and then train it to level1 to be able to use the same item as i was before ?  That's just wrong. This. Exactly. What happened to training Destroyers or Battlecruisers skills ages ago and being awarded all the faction skills when that change was made? I try to stay far away from the pathetic "Ohh noooooes ccplease gief us sp because extended downtiem!" but seriously, you owe me Light Fighters V. And everyone else who you screwed over with this bull. I mean, clearly this is a cool way to see if people will drop some extra USD on skill injectors to get the skill back up after you nuked it. Right on there, and please let me know what percentage rise you see in plex sales, and how many accounts who buy the plex end up injecting sp to cover the new skill needed to fly our decade old ships. That would be an interesting metric. GabrielFyre wrote:
As has happened many times over the past decade...this doesn't seem like something experience should let you be surprised about.
Naturally. Well, since CCP has taken a dump all over us before, we shouldn't get butthurt about it now. Thanks for your insight.
Sorry but they aren't the same decade old ships - They are far worse with much less usefulness than what we had 24 hours ago.
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If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.04.28 08:08:28 -
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Michael Bone wrote:PAPULA wrote:What about light fighters skill ? I have fighters to level 4, but after the patch i will not be able to use fighters ? if i understand that correctly ? Now i have to buy the skill first, earn 100 million isk and then train it to level1 to be able to use the same item as i was before ? That's just wrong. This. Exactly. What happened to training Destroyers or Battlecruisers skills ages ago and being awarded all the faction skills when that change was made? I try to stay far away from the pathetic "Ohh noooooes ccplease gief us sp because extended downtiem!" but seriously, you owe me Light Fighters V. And everyone else who you screwed over with this bull. I mean, clearly this is a cool way to see if people will drop some extra USD on skill injectors to get the skill back up after you nuked it. Right on there, and please let me know what percentage rise you see in plex sales, and how many accounts who buy the plex end up injecting sp to cover the new skill needed to fly our decade old ships. That would be an interesting metric. GabrielFyre wrote:
As has happened many times over the past decade...this doesn't seem like something experience should let you be surprised about.
Naturally. Well, since CCP has taken a dump all over us before, we shouldn't get butthurt about it now. Thanks for your insight.
Sorry but they aren't the same decade old ships - They are far worse with much less usefulness than what we had 24 hours ago.
PAPULA; They aren't close to the same item you used before, what you used before was actually useful. You will need to train that new skill to 4 and outlay more isk for T2 light fighters to get anything close to useful - T1 versions only use is in making T2's.
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Sgt Ocker
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Posted - 2016.05.02 23:57:31 -
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Michael Bone wrote:MaverickScot wrote:What you can fly before, etc. While this is true why would I fly my Thanatos without weapons. I have to train to use my firblogs again and I have to pay for the privilege to do so. I'm assuming this is to force people back into sub caps as after the nerf to jump range then the added jump fatigue I might just sell the carrier.
Hate what has happened to carriers and I just returned to the game after an 18 month sabbatical. Next you'll be taking my POS's off of me.... Oh wait.
What happened to all my drones? Did they just turn into firblogs that I can't use? They are not in the station with my carrier.
Edit. Found the drones as pre the original post. Begs the question. Given my carrier is in low sec where it is based out of why would you move all my drones to hi-sec. Now I need to make another hi - lo transition to get them back to where they are needed, geez. Clearly, you ought to be penalized for taking a break from EVE. This isn't a game, it's a full time job. Didn't you get that memo? Anyone who isn't watching the forums for upcoming changes and playing on the test server is a pleb and deserves to take it up the tailpipe. ~~ CCP Nopoors (Dramatization) Funny that, it was after using carriers on the test server I decided to just sell all the ones I owned. So far it looks like I made the right decision.
Shame about all the wasted SP
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